Catholic dating tips: Lessons from a strip-tease dancer

Why do many men go to clubs to watch a strip-tease dancer do her art?  Well, she can simply go out naked on stage, gyrate, and spread her legs, but there would be nothing exciting about it.  It’s just that: there is no more room for imagination.  As Einstein said, imagination is more powerful than knowledge.  So to arouse men’s sexual passions, a strip-tease dancer has to invite men to a journey of discovery by making them think and guess what lies more beyond than meets the eye.  A strip-tease dancer must turn herself into a rosebud with her petals all wrapped up, and then slowly bloom before men’s eyes, opening each petal one by one as the Spring opens skillfully and mysteriously her first rose: the outer coat, shirt, and bra; the skirt, the shoes, the stockings, the half-slip, and underwear.  And finally there is nothing left to see, but a woman gyrating on stage.

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On the miraculous survival of Virgin Mary’s picture amidst the destruction of Bohol’s churches: A reply to Filipino Freethinkers

Image of the Blessed Virgin Mary amidst the destruction of a Bohol Church (photo from Megan Young's Facebook page, dated Oct. 15, 2013)

Image of the Blessed Virgin Mary amidst the destruction of a Bohol Church (photo from Megan Young’s Facebook page, dated Oct. 15, 2013)

The Filipino Freethinkers made a video questioning the sudden focus on the miraculous survival of the image of the Blessed Virgin Mary during the 7.2 magnitude earthquake the destroyed Bohol’s ancient churches.  Because I am afraid of misquoting them, I tried my best to transcribe (though not perfectly) their thoughts based on their video entitled, “FF Podcast 018: Iglesia ni Cristo’s Medical Mission and the Bohol Earthquake“….(transcript)… I shall only focus on their five main comments…

Read more at Monk’s Hobbit: On the miraculous survival of Virgin Mary’s picture amidst the destruction of Bohol’s churches: A reply to Filipino Freethinkers

If the Catholic Church apostasized, then Christ is a liar and Felix Manalo is the true prophet

March 10, 2012 at 11:24 pm

Mt 16:18 was quoted not so much for the Trinity but for the promise of Christ that the Church that He will found on Peter will not be overcome by error. So if INC claims that there was apostasy in the Church after the death of the last apostle, then Christ is a liar, a false messiah who makes false promises. As God spoke in Deuteronomy through Moses:

21Should you say to yourselves, “How can we recognize that a word is one the LORD has not spoken?”, 22if a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD but the word does not come true, it is a word the LORD did not speak. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; do not fear him. (Dt 18:21-21)

But if the opposite is true and the Church founded by Christ on Peter never apostasized, though some of its members left the sheepfold, then the promise of Christ remains true, and Manalo is a false prophet who deceived many.

On how biblical verses on Felix Manalo of INC can apply to Muhammad or Gregorio Aglipay

Comment by seeker March 1, 2012 at 11:46 pm

Mr. Sugon, your question cannot be answered by just one statement or explained in just one verse. There were many prophesies in the Bible that prove Bro. Felix Manalo was the Last Messenger of God. It’s like puzzles that when you put them all together, you get the answer.

Reply by Quirino M. Sugon Jr March 10, 2012 at 11:43 

I am puzzled how INC can put together verses in the Bible to prove that Felix Manalo is the Last Messenger of God. The Last Messenger of God is not a unique teaching, because it was borrowed from the Muslims: Muhammad is the Last Messenger. If you claim that the latter days is 1914 because of the rumors of wars, the Muslims can also claim such a thing because they are the ones who started the wars, conquering the Christian lands around the Mediterranean Sea: Spain, North Africa, Eqypt, Syria, Asia Minor, and Constantinople. Muhammad also came from the East. He also teaches about the One True God, Allah. He also teaches that Jesus is just a man, a prophet. All the verses that you can use to prove that Felix Manalo was foretold in the Bible can equally apply to Muhammad.

If you claim that the Last Messenger must be in the Philippines, such title can also apply to Gregorio Aglipay who founded the Independent Church of the Philippines founded in 1903. Like Manalo, he also rejected the Trinity. Like Manalo, he also hates the Catholic Church. Like Manalo, he is also a Freemason. All the verses that you can use to prove that Felix Manalo was foretold in the Bible can equally apply to Gregorio Aglipay.

But Christ already foretold these things:

“False messiahs and false prophets will arise, and they will perform signs and wonders so great as to deceive, if that were possible, even the elect.25 Behold, I have told it to you beforehand.26 So if they say to you, ‘He is in the desert,’ do not go out there; if they say, ‘He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.*27k For just as lightning comes from the east and is seen as far as the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be.28 Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.” (Mt 24:24-28)

Without official doctrinal statements, Iglesia ni Cristo is building its house on sand

Question: Submitted on 2012/02/16 at 1:24 pm

Mr. Sugon:

First off, the true Christian teachings upheld by the Iglesia ni Cristo are readily available on the Web (e.g. Wikipedia), or via radio and television broadcasts. We have cable channel NET 25 where you can watch and learn the doctrines as well as the activities of the church. We may not have what you call official Web site, but, the FUNDAMENTAL teachings are readily available online. That’s why many of the critics of the INC, such as you, can elicit questions against them.

I am just wondering why you still ask for such official Web site if you are able to create a blog that criticizes our beliefs. If you don’t have the knowledge of the doctrines and beliefs of the INC, then why create an online journal such as this with the intention of challenging the truth of our faith. Just a thought, Mr. Sugon.

Also, the members of the Iglesia ni Cristo are FULLY AWARE of the fundamental doctrines of the church FYI. All of us are being instructed to remain steadfast in our faith through the pure teachings of Christ. That is also why you may find some members who may falter in their faith and eventually face excommunication (pagtitiwalag) due to unbelief or unchristian practices….

Reply:

Submitted on 2012/02/17 at 3:20 pm | In reply to ivan.

Ivan,

Will INC trust Wikipedia to reflect its true doctrines? Will INC trust Net 25 to explain true doctrine? Humans come and go. If humans can err in grammar and sentence construction, how much more in official doctrines? If there are contradictions in the arguments, INC will just say, “It is not official”. I may make a blog criticizing INC beliefs, but what I am criticizing is what I think INC believes. This may be different from what INC truly believes. Thus, it is important that there is an official teaching that people can scrutinize word for word–a teaching with the seal of approval of the INC hierarchy. As Christ said:

“You are the light of the world. A city set on a mountain cannot be hidden.j15 Nor do they light a lamp and then put it under a bushel basket; it is set on a lampstand, where it gives light to all in the house.” (Mt 5:14-15)

Opinions of men vary in time and place. But since the salvation of men requires that they be taught the truth, it is imperative that truths and doctrines be laid down in written form that will stand the test of time. INC must build its house on rock by writing down its official doctrine. Otherwise, INC builds its house on sand, and when the floods come, the house will be washed away. (cf Mt 7:24-27)

Does Iglesia ni Cristo celebrate the Feast of the Pentecost as its birthday?

Question: From Vincent Cepeda:

Submitted on 2012/02/17 at 1:27 am

it’s ironic how INC reemerged from the philippines, a third world country.

From an illiterate poor man who didn’t even have money to pay his fare at the time that he’s spreading the words of God.

The poor illiterate man, who was tagged as the map, for he only had one pair of coat (amerikana) which from everyday use already formed a map of sweat.

The poor illiterate Felix Manalo who had to battle the then vast Catholic Church and Protestant – during the start of World War 1.

From a poor illiterate man, INC is now worldly renowed, very powerful and influential.

With the economy failing, the world is getting poorer and poorer.
Even the richest country is going through recession and are filing bankruptcy.

INC is buying old Catholic Churches, buying towns and properties all over the world – paying cash, although majority of it’s members belong to society’s lower class.

INC who, in the middle of a World crisis, is currently building the World’s biggest indoor arena in the middle of a community.

From a poor illiterate man.
With all the impossibilities he had overcome, and by looking at INC now,
If it’s not for God, then whose work was it?

Response:

Submitted on 2012/02/17 at 7:45 pm | In reply to vincent cepeda.

Vincent,

It is ironic how the Catholic Church emerged. It’s founder was born on a stable in Bethlehem. He lived in Nazareth where no prophets have lived. His foster father is a carpenter. He gathered 12 unlikely men, many of them illiterate fishermen. And he taught them the mysteries of the Kingdom of God. The founder died, but the twelve testified that he rose from the dead after 3 days. They saw him ascend to heaven with the angels. And he said to them:

“All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me.19h Go, therefore,* and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit,20i teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.* And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age.” (Mt 28:18-20)

Before the founder ascended to heaven, he told them to stay in Jerusalem and wait for “the promise of the Father* about which you have heard me speak;d 5for John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the holy Spirit.” (Acts 1:4-5)

And the promise was fulfilled:

“When the time for Pentecost was fulfilled, they were all in one place together.a 2And suddenly there came from the sky a noise like a strong driving wind,* and it filled the entire house in which they were.b 3Then there appeared to them tongues as of fire,* which parted and came to rest on each one of them.c 4And they were all filled with the holy Spirit and began to speak in different tongues,* as the Spirit enabled them to proclaim.d” (Acts 2:1-3)

The Feast of the Pentecost is what the Catholic Church celebrates every year as its birthday. The 12 men cowering in fear became fearless proclaimers of their founder, Jesus Christ. And from these 12 men, the Catholic Church grew like a mustard seed: “It is the smallest of all the seeds, yet when full-grown it is the largest of plants. It becomes a large bush, and the ‘birds of the sky come and dwell in its branches.” (Mt 13:32) The Catholic Church has 1 billion members spread in all countries of the world.

Question: does INC celebrates the Feast of the Pentecost as its birthday? If not, then INC is not biblical. And we may, therefore, conclude that INC was not built by Christ and his apostles. In other words, INC was only built in 1914 by one man named Felix Manalo and that INC’s doctrines were only made by Manalo, even though he used the same Bible compiled by the Catholic Church.

 

The truth of the Bible is founded on the authority of the Church

Comment:
Comment by Ivan January 18, 2012 at 12:29 pm

Mr. Sugon:

I expected the discussion would come to this. Now, you question the infallibility of the Bible, the very source of knowledge that awakens the consciousness of man in understanding the purpose of his existence. We know that the Bible is the basis of man’s faith.

I do not claim to know everything about the Bible, the history of its compilation, or even the original manuscripts from which the Bible came from. But, in this, I am sure — that the Bible (the compilation of Scriptures, that we have now) contains the Words of God made known to men through His prophets, through our Lord Jesus Christ, through His Apostles….

Response: Quirino M. Sugon Jr
January 21, 2012 at 7:54 pm

Ivan,

Since you do not know the history of the Bible, how it was compiled, then you must read history (which is not in the Bible). And you will learn that it is by the authority of Catholic Church that the Old and New Testament was compiled to a single book (or list of books). And the Catholic Church base its selection of books not on the Bible, because there was no complete Bible yet, but on Tradition: the teachings handed on by the apostles. As the Apostle Paul said:

“Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.” (Thes 2:15)

Notice that traditions are either written (like the books of the Bible) or oral (taught by the apostles though not written). The Bible itself speaks that it is not the pillar of truth but rather the Church:

“But if I should be delayed, you should know how to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth.” (1 Tim 3:15)

Christ did not command his disciples to settle disputes by reading the Bible (because there was only the Old Testament in His time), but rather to the Church:

“If your brother* sins [against you], go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have won over your brother.16* i If he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, so that ‘every fact may be established on the testimony of two or three witnesses.’17j If he refuses to listen to them, tell the church.* If he refuses to listen even to the church, then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector.18* k Amen, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.19″ (Mt 18:15-18)

So next time that you pick up your Bible and start quoting its verses as truth, then you abide by the authority of the Church for stating that what you hold in your hands is truth. Felix Manalo did not compile the Bible, so he has no authority to interpret what he did not gather. The best that he could have done is to make his own Bible, e.g. replace the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John by the Gospels of Peter, Thomas, Philip, and Mary Magdalene. But Manalo did not do so, but believed the Bible as true.