On the blind and false faith of INC: Who ordained Manalo?

Submitted on 2011/05/13 at 9:30 pm

Faith is the most abused word of the so called believers and self-proclaimed Christians. Mr. Sugon, I don’t question your Catholic faith because this is something within you that cannot be seen. But you would agree that there’s the so called “blind faith” or “false faith”.

–Benjie

Monk’s Hobbit:

Submitted on 2011/05/14 at 7:48 pm | In reply to benjie.

Benjie,

Please define “blind faith” and “false faith”. You may be surprised that your definition would best apply to INC members. Why would you believe a man named Felix Manalo who was born 20 centuries after Christ, who have not even talked to anyone of the Apostles? Who confirmed his being sent as an apostle? The protestant ministers who ordained him? Manalo does not believe the teachings of these same Protestants so he invented his own church, thinking that he was sent by God to rebuild the church that Christ founded–a church that Manalo claimed apostasized, that the gates of the netherworld has overcome it, thereby making Christ a liar who made a promise to Peter: “And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, 13 and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it” (Mt 16:18). Is Manalo greater than Christ?

Paul also had a vision of Christ perhaps like Manalo, but unlike Manalo, Paul received the gift of the Holy Spirit from the disciple Ananias and he was presented by Barnabas to the Apostles:

“So Ananias went and entered the house; laying his hands on him, he said, “Saul, my brother, the Lord has sent me, Jesus who appeared to you on the way by which you came, that you may regain your sight and be filled with the holy Spirit.”
18 Immediately things like scales fell from his eyes and he regained his sight. He got up and was baptized,19 and when he had eaten, he recovered his strength. He stayed some days with the disciples in Damascus,20 and he began at once to proclaim Jesus in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God…. Then Barnabas took charge of him and brought him to the apostles, and he reported to them how on the way he had seen the Lord and that he had spoken to him, and how in Damascus he had spoken out boldly in the name of Jesus (Acts 9:17-27).

“Then after fourteen years I again went up to Jerusalem with Barnabas, taking Titus along also. I went up in accord with a revelation, 3 and I presented to them the gospel that I preach to the Gentiles–but privately to those of repute–so that I might not be running, or have run, in vain….and when they recognized the grace bestowed upon me, James and Cephas and John, 8 who were reputed to be pillars, gave me and Barnabas their right hands in partnership, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised. (Gal 2:1-9)

The Catholic bishops received their ordination through the laying of hands in one continuous succession from the apostles. Who laid hands on Felix Manalo? Who sent him?

“But how can they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how can they believe in him of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone to preach? And how can people preach unless they are sent? (Rom 10:14-15)

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Is Christ a Myth?

What’s all these fuss about the actual birth date of Jesus! He might have not existed at all.

–Marz

Monk’s Hobbit:

Submitted on 2011/05/12 at 1:22 pm | In reply to Marz.

Marz,

If Christ were a myth, why did the apostles died as a witness to his death and resurrection? Most of the apostles are ordinary fishermen. They have no talent for making wonderful stories about Christ and invent his teachings. Can you invent “Our Father” and the “Beatitudes”? These apostles are even cowardly men who could not defend Christ when He was arrested. Peter, the head apostle, even denied knowing Christ three times. But after the Pentecost, the apostles were filled with the Holy Spirit and they proclaimed Christ boldly fearless of death.

Now, if you also deny the historicity of apostles themselves, the Catholic Church keeps good histories. In fact, you can trace any Catholic bishop to the bishop who ordained him through the laying of the hands (1 Tim 4:14). If you follow the succession of bishops back in time, you can trace them to one of the apostles. If this is difficult, try the Pope, the Bishop of Rome, the 265th successor of Peter. Here’s wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_popes