Why is it that Catholic priests are celibate when other apostles have wives?

QUESTION by defenderben:
Submitted on 2012/03/12 at 5:01 pm

7. Bishops must be Married.

FACT: In 1079 AD celibacy was first enforced for priests and bishops by Pope Gregory VII. Before this time, they were permitted to marry.

Question #1: Does the Bible teach that a bishop (overseer) must be married AND ALSO have children as one of the conditions of being qualified to be a bishop?

Answer: 1 Timothy 3:2-5 o YES NO o

“A bishop, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money. He must be one who manages his own household well, keeping his children under control with all dignity (but if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how will he take care of the church of God?)” 1 Timothy 3:2-5

Question #2: In the very next chapter of the Bible after bishops are told they must be married with children, does the Holy Spirit warn that “forbidding to marry” is a “doctrine of demons”?

Answer: 1 Timothy 4:1-3 o YES NO o

“But the Holy Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron, men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth.” 1 Timothy 4:1-3

8. Peter was married

FACT: Most Catholics believe that Apostle Peter was the first Pope and was not married. As one Roman Catholic leader said, “if Peter had a wife when he first met Jesus, he got rid of her quick!”

Question #1: Did Peter have a wife?

Answer: Mark 1:30 o YES NO o

“Now Simon’s mother-in-law was lying sick with a fever; and immediately they spoke to Jesus about her.” Mark 1:30

Question #2: Did Paul say all the apostles including Peter had a right to be married?

Answer: 1 Corinthians 9:5 o YES NO o

“Do we not have a right to take along a believing wife, even as the rest of the apostles and the brothers of the Lord and Cephas?” 1 Corinthians 9:5

REPLY

Submitted on 2012/04/06 at 10:29 pm | In reply to [defenderben].

defenderben,

The ideal bishop is to be like Christ who never got married: “They have renounced marriage 9 for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Whoever can accept this ought to accept it” (Mt 19:12). The first apostles like Peter are married; they were called by Christ after they were married not before. But notice that Peter said that “they have given up everything and followed [Christ]” (Mt 19:27). You can deduce that he also left his wife, so that he can become a spiritual father of many. As Christ said, “And everyone who has given up houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands for the sake of my name will receive a hundred times more, and will inherit eternal life.” (Mt 19:29)

Celibacy or not marrying for the sake of the Kingdom of God is a new idea in the time of the Apostles. Thus, during their time it is difficult to find bishops who are unmarried. So the next good thing is to choose a bishop from the married, but he must be married but once. Nevertheless, the idea of an unmarried bishop is still being proposed as an ideal to follow. And it would take centuries before this ideal became a firm discipline in the Catholic Church.

Paul has a right to take a believing wife, even as the rest of the apostles (cf 1 Cor 9:5). But after enumerating his other rights as an apostle, he said: “But I have made no use of any of these rights, nor am I writing this to secure any such provision” (1 Cor 9:15). Thus, we can deduce that Paul did not marry.

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On the blind and false faith of INC: Who ordained Manalo?

Submitted on 2011/05/13 at 9:30 pm

Faith is the most abused word of the so called believers and self-proclaimed Christians. Mr. Sugon, I don’t question your Catholic faith because this is something within you that cannot be seen. But you would agree that there’s the so called “blind faith” or “false faith”.

–Benjie

Monk’s Hobbit:

Submitted on 2011/05/14 at 7:48 pm | In reply to benjie.

Benjie,

Please define “blind faith” and “false faith”. You may be surprised that your definition would best apply to INC members. Why would you believe a man named Felix Manalo who was born 20 centuries after Christ, who have not even talked to anyone of the Apostles? Who confirmed his being sent as an apostle? The protestant ministers who ordained him? Manalo does not believe the teachings of these same Protestants so he invented his own church, thinking that he was sent by God to rebuild the church that Christ founded–a church that Manalo claimed apostasized, that the gates of the netherworld has overcome it, thereby making Christ a liar who made a promise to Peter: “And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, 13 and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it” (Mt 16:18). Is Manalo greater than Christ?

Paul also had a vision of Christ perhaps like Manalo, but unlike Manalo, Paul received the gift of the Holy Spirit from the disciple Ananias and he was presented by Barnabas to the Apostles:

“So Ananias went and entered the house; laying his hands on him, he said, “Saul, my brother, the Lord has sent me, Jesus who appeared to you on the way by which you came, that you may regain your sight and be filled with the holy Spirit.”
18 Immediately things like scales fell from his eyes and he regained his sight. He got up and was baptized,19 and when he had eaten, he recovered his strength. He stayed some days with the disciples in Damascus,20 and he began at once to proclaim Jesus in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God…. Then Barnabas took charge of him and brought him to the apostles, and he reported to them how on the way he had seen the Lord and that he had spoken to him, and how in Damascus he had spoken out boldly in the name of Jesus (Acts 9:17-27).

“Then after fourteen years I again went up to Jerusalem with Barnabas, taking Titus along also. I went up in accord with a revelation, 3 and I presented to them the gospel that I preach to the Gentiles–but privately to those of repute–so that I might not be running, or have run, in vain….and when they recognized the grace bestowed upon me, James and Cephas and John, 8 who were reputed to be pillars, gave me and Barnabas their right hands in partnership, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised. (Gal 2:1-9)

The Catholic bishops received their ordination through the laying of hands in one continuous succession from the apostles. Who laid hands on Felix Manalo? Who sent him?

“But how can they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how can they believe in him of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone to preach? And how can people preach unless they are sent? (Rom 10:14-15)