Will God not allow any man to be sent to hell no matter what their sins?

QUESTION

Posted by THE GOOD TALE on July 2, 2011 at 5:42 am

A gift from the wilderness inspired by God…
Satan has deceived the whole world Rev 12:9 until a woman delivers the true word John 1:1, Rev 12:5, Rev 12:13 from the wilderness Rev 12:6. God our Father will not put any child of his into a hell fire no matter what their sins. It never entered the heart or mind of God to ever do such a thing Jer 7:31, Jer 19:5. I invite you to prove all things commanded by God to be written athttp://thegoodtale.wordpress.com “He that answereth a matter before he heareth it is a folly and a shame unto him Pro 18:13, Acts 3:23”.

RESPONSE

Posted by Quirino M. Sugon Jr on July 2, 2011 at 11:08 am

Good Tale,

What you are saying is the error of Origenism: apokatastasis, wherein both the just and the unjust will all go to heaven. This belief was was formally condemned in the first of the famous anathemas pronounced at the Council of Constantinople in 543: Ei tis ten teratode apokatastasis presbeuei anathema esto [See, also, Justinian, Liber adversus Originem, anathemas 7 and 9.] The doctrine was thenceforth looked on as heterodox by the Church. (Catholic Encyclopedia)

The actual text in Jeremiah reads:

“The people of Judah have done what is evil in my eyes, says the LORD. They have defiled the house which bears my name by setting up in it their abominable idols.31 In the Valley of Ben-hinnom they have built the high place of Topheth to immolate in fire their sons and their daughters, such a thing as I never commanded or had in mind.32 Therefore, beware! days will come, says the LORD, when Topheth and the Valley of Ben-hinnom will no longer be called such, but rather the Valley of Slaughter. For lack of space, Topheth will be a burial place. 33 The corpses of this people will be food for the birds of the sky and for the beasts of the field, which no one will drive away. (Jer 7:30-33)

What God never commanded nor never had in mind is to offer one’s own children to be burnt before the pagan idols (the modern day equivalent are the Idols of Lust where women offer their unborn children to be slaughtered by abortion clinics of Planned Parenthood). To extrapolate such verse to mean figuratively that God does not want to send men to hell, despite their wrongdoings, is false logic. It is for the sins of Israel that God will abandon Israel even though God’s temple was built in Israel:

“Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel: Reform your ways and your deeds, so that I may remain with you in this place.4 Put not your trust in the deceitful words: “This is the temple of the LORD! The temple of the LORD! The temple of the LORD!” (Jer 7:3-4)

The greatest punishment for Israel is when God removes Himself away from Israel. In a similar way, the greatest punishment for man after death is not to be with God forever. This is greatest punishment of Hell.

God wants sinners to be saved, but not against their will. This is what God said to prophet Ezekiel:

“Only the one who sins shall die. The son shall not be charged with the guilt of his father, nor shall the father be charged with the guilt of his son. The virtuous man’s virtue shall be his own, as the wicked man’s wickedness shall be his own.21 But if the wicked man turns away from all the sins he committed, if he keeps all my statutes and does what is right and just, he shall surely live, he shall not die.22 None of the crimes he committed shall be remembered against him; he shall live because of the virtue he has practiced.23 Do I indeed derive any pleasure from the death of the wicked? says the Lord GOD. Do I not rather rejoice when he turns from his evil way that he may live?24 And if the virtuous man turns from the path of virtue to do evil, the same kind of abominable things that the wicked man does, can he do this and still live? None of his virtuous deeds shall be remembered, because he has broken faith and committed sin; because of this, he shall die. (Ez 18:20-24).

About Quirino M. Sugon Jr
Theoretical Physicist in Manila Observatory

2 Responses to Will God not allow any man to be sent to hell no matter what their sins?

  1. If that be apokatastasis, then that is the name for one of the errors at the Council, for it also says –I forget if it’s nostra aetatae or which one–that other religions partake of salvation, and that is what is being taught and more, mirrored in ‘ecumenical initiatives’ in most of the Catholic parishes of the world now–in Mexico and the US, I can say from personal experience. And the people have absorbed it, and live it.

    Yesterday at a doctor’s appointment I was saying the rosary as I waited. Another woman exclaimed happily and said she, too, used to ‘do that,’ but not anymore, and also (I guess commenting on her own loss of fervor, that she no longer prays the rosary) that she and her husband had some new friends, protestants, and they sure were good Christians! Really dedicated! They didn’t seem to believe that Jesus was really God, but whatever. They were really dedicated to prayer, though! So I asked if she ever talked to them about how good it was to have Christ in the Eucharist, to have confession, to have such a sacrifice at mass as the body and blood of our Savior? How important it was that Jesus was really God, if we are actually saved by His death (I said anything I could! I’m no theologian as you may well already know!) She looked at me in complete wonder. No! Never!

    But Jesus said we should tell people, I said, remembering all the times He insisted that no one comes to the Father except through Him, and that we should go out and baptize all nations, and that even the good we do, we should do in His name, not our own, and not the government’s.

    Oh, no, the woman said, my friends are just fine the way they are, and I am sure that God would never send such nice people to hell.

    You see the relation between the two ideas, that people can go to hell, and the other, that any faith leads to heaven as long as the people are nice people. The latter is secularism in a nutshell. Of course, no one evangelizes behind that idea!

    I think Archbishop Lefebvre said that at the bottom, it’s a denial of original sin. And heaven knows, that’s just everywhere! Even in the doctor’s office! They believe everything there–no one overeats or engages in any damaging behavior at all. It’s quite strange!

    Well, I am getting dressed and taking out some TAN (traditional) books about hell, and purgatory, and about what the Church teaches (taught, before the Council. still must return to teaching) about marriage and the priesthood and chastity and all of it. I have a nice inexpensive selection, also some free stuff, pamphlets. I am presently working on turning some of Dr. Sugan’s very fine writing into pamphlets, as he gave me permission–first I have done two others, one on the priesthood and one on the scientific errors of so-called evolutionary theory, since that nonsense is also very fundamental to the errors of our age.

    I don’t know how else to fight. That woman, in her fifties, with so much influence in her small sphere, she must be taught her Faith again.

    I urge any reader with time on their hands to get a little cart and an umbrella to keep off the sun and go do likewise. (I got two lightweight fold-up Coleman camping tables.) TAN ships internationally. They don’t have everything, though. And you need things in your dialects, just as we need Spanish spiritual books, but these just don’t seem to exist.

    Thanks for this post. It’s so clear and well-written! Please keep fighting.

  2. Quirino M. Sugon Jr says:

    Thanks, White Lily.

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