A Jesuit joke: Hans Kung, Jacques Dupuis, and Joseph Ratzinger meets Jesus in heaven
May 19, 2010 3 Comments
I met Fr. Norris Seenivasen, S.J. this afternoon on my way to the Observatory. He is a Malaysian with Indian (India) features. We were classmates before in one of our Theology courses in college. He is now a Theology teacher in Ateneo (I think). Last year, my friend and I had lunch with him at the Arrupe Residence Hall. Food is served like in the Cafeteria, except that you get you own food and go to your seat. They serve good food.
Fr. Norris told me that he is going back to Malaysia in a month. He will be helping the Bishop of the Diocese of Malacca-Johore. He said that Catholics in Malaysia comprise only one percent of the population. There are only three dioceses in Malaysia. During mass, it is usually the bishop who celebrates, unlike here in the Philippines where it is the priests who say the mass. And if you go a little farther there is already a different bishop. That is why, whenever he says mass in different places, he just says, “Let us pray for our Local Bishop…” He finds it difficult to know all the names.
We talked about other things, about sensitive issues like inter-religious dialogue and how this became an important concept after Vatican II. He also mentioned about differences among Catholics: liberals and conservatives–and I added traditionalists. And he told me a little Jesuit joke:
“Hans Kung, Jacques Dupuis, and Joseph Ratzinger died and stood before the pearly gates of heaven. Before they can enter heaven, they must be cross-examined by Jesus.
“The first one to go was Hans Kung, the theologian who questioned Papal Infallibility. Jesus and Kung talked for 12 hours. Then Kung came out and said, ‘Jesus convinced me that my way of thinking was not right.” And he entered heaven.
“The second one to go was Jacques Dupuis, the theologian who says that all religions are equal paths to God. Jesus and Dupuis talked for 24 hours. Then Dupuis came out and said, “Jesus convinced me that my way of thinking was not right.” And he entered heaven.
“Joseph Ratzinger was listening to the debates between Jesus and Kung and Dupuis. He has his briefcase of notes. Then his turn came. Jesus and Ratzinger talked for 48 hours. Then Jesus came out and said, “Ratzinger convinced me that my way of thinking was not right.”