Is the definition of Papal Infallibility fallible?

Question:

Posted by Raymond St Cyr Sr on June 8, 2011 at 8:33 pm

The Pope is human and all humans are fallible. It wasn’t until the First Vatican Council held in 1870 that the Pope was declared by proclamation to be infallible in matters of Church teaching and morality. The fact that the Vatican Council made this decree does not make it so, or make it true. To claim that the Holy Spirit directed a group of fallible men to have the power to bestow infallibility upon another man is not a matter of faith but a decree to amplify the pope’s authority in matters of the faith in the eye’s of the faithful.

Response:

Posted by Quirino M. Sugon Jr on June 9, 2011 at 5:06 pm

Raymond St. Cyr Sr,

All humans are fallible. Christ is true man. Is Christ fallible? Of course not, because Christ is also true God. Every rule always has an exception. Now, Christ promised Peter: “Simon, Simon, behold Satan has demanded to sift all of you like wheat,32 but I have prayed that your own faith may not fail; and once you have turned back, you must strengthen your brothers” (Lk 2:31-32). Apostleship is an office. When Judas died, Matthias took his place (c.f. Acts 1:25). Now,since the Pope is the Successor of Peter, then the Pope is guaranteed by Christ that his faith may not also fail. So in matters of faith and morals, we are assured by Christ that the Pope’s faith may not fail. That is, he cannot teach error. This is the essence of Papal Infallibility. Vatican I’s definition of Papal Infallibility by the college of bishops is only an affirmation of what Christ promised to Peter.

Since you are also human, I guess your critique of papal infallibility is fallible.

Is the Reproductive Health Bill for the Catholic priests who are sexual perverts and maniacs?

Question:

Posted by benjie on June 9, 2011 at 11:56 am

RH Bill does not only benefit the pharmaceutical companies. It also benefits the priests who are sex perverts and maniacs. Are you sure your priests don’t use condoms and contraceptives?

Response:

Posted by Quirino M. Sugon Jr on June 9, 2011 at 2:26 pm

Benjie,

Good argument. RH bill would benefit both Catholic and INC ministers who are sex perverts and maniacs. If we do not allow RH Bill to become a law, illicit sexual intercourse can be more easily known because the woman will get pregnant or acquire sexually transmitted diseases. So why does the INC support the RH bill and why does the Catholic Bishops don’t? Is it because majority of the INC ministers are sex perverts and majority of Catholic Bishops are celibates?